because of the obama machine, the organization of the obama campaign really increased the outpouri of support, even from 2008. what is so hard to believe, lou is that in these demographic categories, latinos, african-americans, the ufo, you know, analysts going in -- and we talked about this ad nauseam -- were saying this is no way for this to look like 2008. elected all these polls saying, it can't be democrat plus seven turn out like 2008. well, it essentially was. and the youth vote went up one point to 19% from 2008. the african-american vote one out. in fact, an ohio the same number of african americans turned ou as turned out in 2008, mitt romney would have won ohio. but that number increased so dramatically that it erased mitt romney's ability to win that state. lou: i ill cnfess to my was skkptical of david axelrod, his theatrics surrounding his mustache, which she gets to retain. the idea that they grnd operation of the obama campaign would be as energized and successful as it turned out to be. what are your thoughts on the comparisons between a republican and the obama groun